New clan requirement in order to increase clanrank

[ZerG_OverlorD]

I just realized, we are nearing 100 members. And about 70 of those members play mostly solo. If we make a requirement that everybody play 1 solo game per day we would have about 40-30 wins and 30-35 loses everyday. This would increase the clans rank rapidly. In a week we would get about up to 280 wins. Thats nearly doubling our clan wins.

[bihar]

1 game per day is too much I believe.
I suggested 2 games per week long ago.
But even if everyone took my (and not Zerg's) qouta seriously + the superactive soloers, we would have no problem breaking into top 100 very soon.

voted for "possibly"

Bihary

[ZerG_OverlorD]

I dont think its too much, if people cant get on everyday thats something thats understandable. But people need to keep soloing, it seems people arent being active enough... And its shown by the drop of our rank.

[Blackreaver]

I don't even play 1 game per day as of late... :x

P.S. Where's Ciaro?

[PieMonger]

That's cause you're lazy!

I'll try to squeeze in 1-2 games every day, but I won't like it!

[LoC_Mexican]

I'll attempt a one game per-week thing.

[bihar]

Classically, requirements for clan LOC have been 50%+ AND level 15+.

Our clan requirements are pending, we are in an exploratory mode presently. Requirements were relaxed in order to increase the pool of potential recruits, and thereby to give us greater dynamics on the clan ladders. Overall, this policy was a success I believe, but in time, a well-defined set of requirements needs to be reinstalled. Presently, some of our most active, most productive players do not fulfill the classical requirements, partly because these accounts are old accounts and carry the negative percentage of their learning times. Let me suggest a scheme that honors sheer strength, both historic and present, as well as ladder activity.

Suggested set of requirements

for grunts:
50%+ AND level 15+ (classical)
OR 50%+ solo AND level 15+ solo
OR top 30 on clan solo ladder board
OR top 10 on clan 2v2 ladder board
OR top 10 on clan 3v3 ladder board
OR top 10 on clan 4v4 ladder board
Also, a minimum of 2 clan-games (solo or AT) per week is strongly recommended.

for shamans:
55%+ AND level 15+
OR 50%+ solo AND level 20+ solo
OR top 15 on clan solo ladder board
OR top 5 on clan 2v2 ladder board
OR top 5 on clan 3v3 ladder board
OR top 5 on clan 4v4 ladder board
Also, a minimum of 3 clan-games (solo or AT) per week is strongly recommended.

A peon that does not fulfill strength requirements can still receive temporary promotion, if he is determined to do some or all of the following:
1. Increase his overall % or solo % substantially
2. Play extra-active for the clan (10+ games per week)
3. Aim to break into top 30 on clan solo ladder board, or into top 10 on any of the clan team ladder boards.
After a probation period of 2-3 weeks, his promotion may be finalized or withdrawn, depending on his performance.

This all may sound a little complicated, but truth is, I am just trying to formalize a system that is intuitively and flexibly, de facto, in practice anyways, (I guess).

Let us discuss.

Bihary

[ZerG_OverlorD]

Anything to get everybody more active, our clan solo rank is slipping quickly. For this clan to grow it needs to be more active. I admit maybe 1 game per day is a little too much, but its obvious most people arent playing 1 per week. That means in a week we should have about 60-40 or 55-45 more wins-loses a week. We obviously arent getting that. We are getting like 10-10 a week, which is not active at all. This needs to be changed and if it means we need to do something about it I suggest it be done. This is a ladder clan and aparently not everybody is playing ladder. Not to mention most members rarely log on, which is rather disapointing... But in order to wake up everybody I suggest we do my idea for one week only. To catch up the clans rank and wake up the players. Then we have people do about 1 a week. And people who havent played for 2 weeks (if they obviously have the time too) be removed do to inactiveness. Only in a short period of time will that be applied so people will learn to be more active. All this may sound strict but once everything is sorted we will come up with a more reasonable solution so that everybody is happy, and it still enhances the growth of the clan.

[bihar]

zergoverlord said:

Anything to get everybody more active, our clan solo rank is slipping quickly. For this clan to grow it needs to be more active. I admit maybe 1 game per day is a little too much, but its obvious most people arent playing 1 per week. That means in a week we should have about 60-40 or 55-45 more wins-loses a week. We obviously arent getting that. We are getting like 10-10 a week, which is not active at all. This needs to be changed and if it means we need to do something about it I suggest it be done. This is a ladder clan and aparently not everybody is playing ladder. Not to mention most members rarely log on, which is rather disapointing... But in order to wake up everybody I suggest we do my idea for one week only. To catch up the clans rank and wake up the players. Then we have people do about 1 a week. And people who havent played for 2 weeks (if they obviously have the time too) be removed do to inactiveness. Only in a short period of time will that be applied so people will learn to be more active. All this may sound strict but once everything is sorted we will come up with a more reasonable solution so that everybody is happy, and it still enhances the growth of the clan.

I dont think you can force people to be active. Activity is not something one decides, it is something that comes naturally (and it should be). The only way to increase activity of the clan is to get more active people and fire passive people.
My experience is, that even when a new recruit is clearly notified about our soloing intentions (I did it with everyone), only 40-50% plays solo ever, and only 10-20 % plays solo regularly. Such is life it seems, soloing is hard, not many can take the stress it involves...

We should try to find the golden middle-road here: Let us remain friendly, but legislate some rules to facilitate the evolution of the clan towards better ladder activity.

A side-note: Zerg, I always wanted to tell you this: The way you treat new recruits, even a$$holes, is fantastic! Dont lose patience now, things take time, and they cannot be forced.

Bihary

[ZerG_OverlorD]

Thanks, and kumai I think that would be a good idea. It would make the game more micro and sc-ish. And bihary I see what you mean, but you need to understand that some people within the clan hardly ever play at all anyway. I see your point, but you need to understand mine. There are like people who have 2-3 solo/team records in the clan, they dont play much at all, just footies and dota. I dont really mind the fact that they play customs more then they play ladder but the fact that they dont play ladder at all. I have been using my old account for orc team games and I have played like 20 games in 3 days, and I have a rather busy lifestyle. I think a filter of the people who are extremely inactive should be put into place and anybody who might be nominated to be removed have a chance to stay by showing their activity. It kind of frusterates me that of nearly 100 people the clan wins only change by about 2-4 everyday.

[sneezysausage]

I am on the football team for my high school so its demanding alot of time from me, and it will for the next two weeks. I also have to go to my dad's house, and there is no internet there so that's why I am not very active as of now. I think I speak for a small group of people in the clan, which is why I am bringing this up.

In about two weeks I will start playing 1-2 games per day. I think before anyone is spoken to about not playing enough, a background check might be good so we know what is going on in someone's life and see what they are up to.

thanks, I hope I have helped with your decision.

[EXoCiDe]

Bad idea. I would be chieftain.

[EXoCiDe]

Seriously though, you guys have accounts on the roster that have expired, like 'Fx7i'.

I'd guess that everyone and their momma has at least 2 alt/smurf accounts on average, that just HAVE to be in the clan too.